Muon updates matrix-valued neural-network parameters by orthogonalizing a gradient-based momentum matrix. Its reliance on derivatives limits its use when gradients are unavailable or unreliable. We develop a derivative-free framework that constructs Muon-style updates from structured finite differences. Four variants are considered: full entrywise recovery, random low-rank surrogates, basis-aligned rank-one probing, and direct structured search. Exhaustive basis-aligned probing is equivalent, up to positive scaling before ideal polar orthogonalization, to coordinate finite differences. Matrix-regression experiments show that random rank-one probing can reduce the number of function evaluations substantially, at the cost of less accurate updates. Controlled noisy-gradient experiments on regression and a neural network illustrate when accurate function values can compensate for an unreliable gradient oracle. A small CartPole study further examines orthogonal rank-one probes under a fixed episode budget. These results support structured probing as a practical option for selected black-box problems; they do not establish a general convergence guarantee or an advantage over accurate, inexpensive gradients.

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