We show that projected Adam for online optimization with arbitrary moment decay parameters $β_1,β_2\in[0,1)$ can have average regret bounded away from zero. A similar result of Reddi-Kale-Kumar from 2018 required $β_1<\sqrt{β_2}$. Similar to their result, we use a three-periodic sequence of linear functions on $[-1,1]$ with slopes $c,-1,-1$, though we use $c$ slightly larger than $2$. This nonzero average regret result extends to Adam variants such as AdamW, RMSProp, NAdam, Adan, AdaMax, Muon, and to an i.i.d. variant of the three-periodic sequence of slopes for Adam.

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